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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
EXTREME SPOILERPHOBES BEWARE


They've delayed release of Episode 8 from May 2017 to December 2017 for a "character rewrite due to audience response".

So. What if it ISN'T Poe being re written to include being openly gay? Who else could it be? Was Kylo supposed to become irretrievably evil after killing his father? Was Poe supposed to be a double agent? Did Han not really die? Was BB-8 supposed to be a Decepticon? Bring your crack theories!

(But let's be real here. It's openly gay Poe!)

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If we're being real, it's not going to be openly gay Poe.

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As much as I would love it to be that, I'm inclined to agree--I'll be very pleasantly surprised if we get any openly queer characters in the movies.

What I would be less surprised by is them giving Poe a bigger role in general based on audience response.

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They don't even have to make him openly gay, they only need to not deny the possibility and I'm taking it on board wholesale.

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DA

Since Disney has refused to do this with Steve Rogers being bisexual, despite fan response, media articles about it, and even some of the actors agreeing with the possibility, I highly doubt it would happen with Poe. They're not going to not deny the possibility for a major blockbuster movie.

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Shows, books and movies have done this before and it screams of "look how progressive we are having a supposedly queer character but never mentioning that in canon!"

Showing an openly gay character doesn't have to mean a big, dramatic reveal scene. It's not that difficult to throw in a line or small offhanded scene indicating they're gay.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I have a vague terror they're adding a few girlfriend mentions to 'de-gay' him, even though I really don't think they would.

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I don't think they're going to be making any major changes. It might be just, "Oh, people really seemed to like Poe and he wasn't going to be in it that much. Let's make that part a little bigger." Which, fine with.

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When principal photography for added/changed scenes starts it will be interesting to see which actors are involved.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering in the original plan, Poe WAS supposed to die in the tie fighter crash, this is likely. I have no links but I read it in an interview or something with Oscar.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
it's to bring back jar jar binks.

(i hope not.

... well only if it's as darth darth binks. other than that...)

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I don't think there's gonna be any massive changes to the original script, just standard last minute tweaks. Disney probably just figured out that saying "we love our fans so much that we're making the movie more about what they want" sounds better than "holy shit, look how much money we made releasing TFA at Christmas, we should make December the release date for all our Star Wars movies!"

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Yup, plus keeping Star Wars in December means they aren't potentially eatting into the profits of their Marvel summer blockbusters.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, true.

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The rumors I've heard is that they're giving the new trio more scenes together.

But, really, I think they're just going to give Poe a bit more screentime since I don't think anyone at Disney expected such a huge fan response to him. They must be glad they didn't kill him off in TFA like they originally planned.

Based on the way they've handled potential queer characters in the Marvel movies, I don't hold out hope that they'd make one of the new trio gay. Especially since the latest rumors are that one or two of the new female characters for VIII are supposed to be love interests.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. I don't care what gender a 'love interest character' is, I hate characters that are introduced specifically to be love interests. Might as well have a plank of wood with genitals.

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I am Groot?

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I AM GROOT.

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As going to say where does Groot have genitals but there was that flower...

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I think the rumors assumed love interest because the actresses were said to be doing readings specifically with John Boyega.

But, yeah, agreed.

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I remember those rumours from before TFA came out, because there was a lot of interest in Disney apparently looking for WOC in supporting roles, thanks to fan comments (in the same way Phasma became a woman after fan backlash over the lack of female characters). Which would obviously be great, since the only WOC role in TFA that had more than one line got cut out. And now I'm hearing these potential WOC roles might be the ones that are trimmed to make more room for the new trio, which is upsetting if true. I mean, great that we're getting more of the new trio, but surely there must be other stuff that could be cut down to free up space for them?

The rumours did seem to jump to the love interest conclusion because of John Boyega being involved, like you say. In hindsight, I wonder how true that was. I know a lot of fandom seems resistent to Finn/Rey, but I felt like TFA set that pairing up quite well, so I'm skeptical they'd have a different love interest for Finn. Hmmmm, guess we'll have to wait until December 2017 to find out.

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[personal profile] blackruzsa 2016-01-23 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think originally the next episode was meant to focus more on Luke, but with such positive audience response to the new trio they're rewriting the next movie to put more focus on all of them (likely especially Poe)

Which I'm excited for

Though Rian Johnson has been keeping it up with stormpilot on his twitter lately so maybe we might at least get hints of gay Poe, or Poe and Finn interact more

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I hope you're all wrong and it turns out to be more lines for Jess Pava. ASIAN LADIES IN SPACE, KICKING ASS.

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I simply think they'll gonna put some more Poe in rewritten version of the script.
I don't think Disney will be too specific about gay or not gay thing.

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As long as they leave the gay/not-gay question alone and Oscar's occasional flirty looks keep making it into the final cuts, I will be pleased.