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There was Lupita N'yongo. Although I guess you aren't counting her because she only voiced a character? Either way, I do agree that the lack of WOC characters is disappointing. It would be good if they rectified that in the upcoming movies.

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To be fair, Lupita specifically said she wanted to voice a character instead of appear on screen because she was tired of being cast only because of her skin and not her ability.

Sad that that means she just has to voice something since she can't trust anyone to be able to cast her in a part that isn't just about her being black.

Agreed. It's sad that there's such a fine line between casting queer or POC due to pandering or due to genuine desire for an actor's talents or to have different characterizations.

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Yup. It's messed up that unless a character is specifically written as being a POC or queer or disabled or trans or any other minority, they're automatically assumed to be straight white cis and able-bodied by the Hollywood system. And if they are written as part of a minority, too often that identity is the sole factor of their characterisation and personality. :(

Is it true that Finn was originally going to be white/they were only auditioning white guys for him until John Boyega came along?

I think they just made it nonspecified casting and he got the part.

That's not what I heard on Black Men Can't Jump

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I hadn't heard that before. That sucks that she's already having to deal with the frustration of being stuck in those parts when her career should still be so fresh and exciting for her. :(

Definitely. That's also why Oscar Isaac shortened his full name. He didn't want to get cast in the stereotypical parts that usually go to Latino men.

And he got parts where he had to play a white guy as a result. He had white parents and a white sister onscreen in Inside Llewyn Davis, like they just erased all biological possibility that non-white people could have stories that were about their thoughts and actions and desires besides race.

He could have been adopted though couldn't he?

Have you seen the movie?!

Did it show the character being developed for 9 months in his white mom's womb after being fucked by his white dad? No? Parents lie. Adoption is possible.

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White people need to stop making excuses.

I'm trying to say the character doesn't have to be non-white is they have white parents? I'm not seeing the issue in that.

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He can pass as white. Surely it's better he can play parts written for both white guys and Latino guys?

Or would you honestly prefer him confined solely to Latino roles, and "white roles" reserved only for white people?

I would honestly have preferred they cast other Latino people for the side characters playing his relatives. I also honestly would prefer people write more roles where people who can pass don't HAVE to pass. Are you honestly saying passing is a good thing?

Yes. It can very useful.

Just to add, there will always be roles written for write people. I have no problem with those roles being taken by POC, rather than white people. It's shocking that you don't like that.

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Agreed that people shouldn't have to be white or pass as white to get well-rounded and/or leading roles. Hollywood remains gross over this.

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You're right, I should have clarified I meant seeing WOC onscreen, sorry about that. Lupita being part of the film is fantastic, and I am so happy for her, but I'd also be happy to see WOC playing WOC. Like in the MCU, when they finally cast a WOC, Zoe Saldana, in a major role, only to paint her green. Gamora is awesome, but the lack of other WOC in major roles that don't disguise their skin is disappointing.

"Green is a color"

Hahaha I see you <3

lol, hello nonnie.