I don't know if they've really outright denied him being bisexual, though. I mean, a lot of people involved with TWS have as good as said that the movie was a love story. If it was ever addressed in canon, I don't think it'd be a full on "I love you, now let's kiss" scene since "with you to the end of the line" is pretty much the closest you're going to get to two dudes saying they love each other in this type of movie.
And to be fair, the Cap movies are the ones least focused on het romance, so.
You don't want canon to write out your fantasies anyway--by not denying, they give you room to imagine whatever you want. But if they confirm it then it becomes subject to the writer's interpretation and like all movie writing it'll have its shitty points and then you'll have to accept all the shitty points of your fave pairing as canon.
I really don't get why there needs to be a distinction between friendship/ family of heart love and romantic love. Romantic love doesn't require sexual love, and all of them can be the all encompassing "I would die/kill for you and I want you in my life forever" kind of emotional connection. Making arbitrary distinctions between romantic and other sorts of love makes it seem like one is being defined as more than another, and that just doesn't seem right to me.
NA, but I think it's just that those "I would die for you" relationships are already so over-portrayed because family members or male friends that people would like it to actually be romantic and sexual love for once instead.
Making arbitrary distinctions between romantic and other sorts of love makes it seem like one is being defined as more than another, and that just doesn't seem right to me.
This would be a good point if we were talking about another straight couple, but we're not. The distinction between romanti or sexual love and platonic/familial love becomes important when the former has been systematically discriminated against and censored and the latter has not.
No offense taken at all. I just don't think you can talk about relationships in general without considering the genders of people involved when the discussion is about what types of relationships are more socially accepted and valued, because the context is really not the same, and the implications become different as well.
Like, I really want to see more stories about female characters where romance is just not an issue and never comes up at all, and if they went in that direction with Rey I would be incredibly happy. But "why does there always have to be a romance" is not a criticism I'd make of a piece of media that had a same gender relationship (or for that matter positively portrayed interracial relationship), because those romantic relationships are also devalued and underrepresented.
Not trying to browbeat you, btw, just explaining where I'm coming from.
I was coming from a place where gender is immaterial, but I realize that's not reflective of reality and that different combinations of genders still carry differing stigma. Again I apologize.
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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)And to be fair, the Cap movies are the ones least focused on het romance, so.
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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)Are you joking. There are far more romantic love "I would die for you" story lines than for family and friendship.
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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)This would be a good point if we were talking about another straight couple, but we're not. The distinction between romanti or sexual love and platonic/familial love becomes important when the former has been systematically discriminated against and censored and the latter has not.
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(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)Like, I really want to see more stories about female characters where romance is just not an issue and never comes up at all, and if they went in that direction with Rey I would be incredibly happy. But "why does there always have to be a romance" is not a criticism I'd make of a piece of media that had a same gender relationship (or for that matter positively portrayed interracial relationship), because those romantic relationships are also devalued and underrepresented.
Not trying to browbeat you, btw, just explaining where I'm coming from.
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