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then it's already not denied. Giving him a female love interest doesn't deny bisexuality.
Parent up, this is about Captain America, not Poe
I hate this so much, it's having your cake and eating it too, being able to claim progressiveness while taking none of the risks for actually taking any action.
Except there's no canon indication that there's anything more than strong male friendship or the possibility that he might have romantic interest in men.
Except the anon I'm replying to says there doesn't need to be confirmation, just "not denying"
I wouldn't say no to Steve and Bucky kissing on screen. But I'd just be happy for a hug at this point.
I remember those rumours from before TFA came out, because there was a lot of interest in Disney apparently looking for WOC in supporting roles, thanks to fan comments (in the same way Phasma became a woman after fan backlash over the lack of female characters). Which would obviously be great, since the only WOC role in TFA that had more than one line got cut out. And now I'm hearing these potential WOC roles might be the ones that are trimmed to make more room for the new trio, which is upsetting if true. I mean, great that we're getting more of the new trio, but surely there must be other stuff that could be cut down to free up space for them?
The rumours did seem to jump to the love interest conclusion because of John Boyega being involved, like you say. In hindsight, I wonder how true that was. I know a lot of fandom seems resistent to Finn/Rey, but I felt like TFA set that pairing up quite well, so I'm skeptical they'd have a different love interest for Finn. Hmmmm, guess we'll have to wait until December 2017 to find out.
The rumours did seem to jump to the love interest conclusion because of John Boyega being involved, like you say. In hindsight, I wonder how true that was. I know a lot of fandom seems resistent to Finn/Rey, but I felt like TFA set that pairing up quite well, so I'm skeptical they'd have a different love interest for Finn. Hmmmm, guess we'll have to wait until December 2017 to find out.
I don't know if they've really outright denied him being bisexual, though. I mean, a lot of people involved with TWS have as good as said that the movie was a love story. If it was ever addressed in canon, I don't think it'd be a full on "I love you, now let's kiss" scene since "with you to the end of the line" is pretty much the closest you're going to get to two dudes saying they love each other in this type of movie.
And to be fair, the Cap movies are the ones least focused on het romance, so.
And to be fair, the Cap movies are the ones least focused on het romance, so.
As much as I ship Poe/Finn, I'd also love to see Finn/Rey because there's a big lack of positive interracial relationships in blockbuster movies. I do think they set it up well, but I think they could easily make it into friendship, as well, especially if Rey does become a Jedi.
Awesome! Sadly I only tend to write shorter fic, so even getting to the 5K minimum for their smallest tier probably isn't possible. But I'm excited for everyone who'll be participating, and I'll definitely signal boost their promo posts. :)
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And by positive interracial relationships, I meant male/female. I'm well aware that Poe/Finn is also interracial. There's still a lot of negativity towards white women/black men relationships.
And by positive interracial relationships, I meant male/female. I'm well aware that Poe/Finn is also interracial. There's still a lot of negativity towards white women/black men relationships.
This.
Since mcu is a topic upthread, just look at how Disney forced the Cap 3 screenwriters/directors to change the plot of the script entirely.
Since mcu is a topic upthread, just look at how Disney forced the Cap 3 screenwriters/directors to change the plot of the script entirely.
To be fair, wasn't a big part of that change to do with Robert Downey Jr wanting to be bumped from a cameo to a leading part of the plot?
There was Lupita N'yongo. Although I guess you aren't counting her because she only voiced a character? Either way, I do agree that the lack of WOC characters is disappointing. It would be good if they rectified that in the upcoming movies.
You don't want canon to write out your fantasies anyway--by not denying, they give you room to imagine whatever you want. But if they confirm it then it becomes subject to the writer's interpretation and like all movie writing it'll have its shitty points and then you'll have to accept all the shitty points of your fave pairing as canon.
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To be fair, Lupita specifically said she wanted to voice a character instead of appear on screen because she was tired of being cast only because of her skin and not her ability.
To be fair, Lupita specifically said she wanted to voice a character instead of appear on screen because she was tired of being cast only because of her skin and not her ability.
I hope you're all wrong and it turns out to be more lines for Jess Pava. ASIAN LADIES IN SPACE, KICKING ASS.
Yeah, his Kylo Ren-esque temper tantrum got him to co-star what will end up being Iron Man 6.
Sad that that means she just has to voice something since she can't trust anyone to be able to cast her in a part that isn't just about her being black.
Agreed. It's sad that there's such a fine line between casting queer or POC due to pandering or due to genuine desire for an actor's talents or to have different characterizations.
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You're right, I should have clarified I meant seeing WOC onscreen, sorry about that. Lupita being part of the film is fantastic, and I am so happy for her, but I'd also be happy to see WOC playing WOC. Like in the MCU, when they finally cast a WOC, Zoe Saldana, in a major role, only to paint her green. Gamora is awesome, but the lack of other WOC in major roles that don't disguise their skin is disappointing.
You're right, I should have clarified I meant seeing WOC onscreen, sorry about that. Lupita being part of the film is fantastic, and I am so happy for her, but I'd also be happy to see WOC playing WOC. Like in the MCU, when they finally cast a WOC, Zoe Saldana, in a major role, only to paint her green. Gamora is awesome, but the lack of other WOC in major roles that don't disguise their skin is disappointing.
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Yup. It's messed up that unless a character is specifically written as being a POC or queer or disabled or trans or any other minority, they're automatically assumed to be straight white cis and able-bodied by the Hollywood system. And if they are written as part of a minority, too often that identity is the sole factor of their characterisation and personality. :(
Yup. It's messed up that unless a character is specifically written as being a POC or queer or disabled or trans or any other minority, they're automatically assumed to be straight white cis and able-bodied by the Hollywood system. And if they are written as part of a minority, too often that identity is the sole factor of their characterisation and personality. :(
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I hadn't heard that before. That sucks that she's already having to deal with the frustration of being stuck in those parts when her career should still be so fresh and exciting for her. :(
I hadn't heard that before. That sucks that she's already having to deal with the frustration of being stuck in those parts when her career should still be so fresh and exciting for her. :(
Is it true that Finn was originally going to be white/they were only auditioning white guys for him until John Boyega came along?
Definitely. That's also why Oscar Isaac shortened his full name. He didn't want to get cast in the stereotypical parts that usually go to Latino men.
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