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But the First Order could be, who knows. Would be nice to see a female villain in Episode 8 if that's not the case.

I'm new to having an account so forgive this stupid question. I know you can save tags but is there a way to save searches? (Like "fandom y, character x/character z, -"au", complete only")

Yes obvs I could bookmark it in my browser but I'm on mobile & don't really want to.

I think at the moment there is no such official feature, according to here: http://archiveofourown.org/comments/3527177

The closest thing I could find on greasyfork was this: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/8382-ao3-tracking

I hope that's helpful!

We do? What scene?

The Dark Side =/= the Empire/First Order though, they just use each other to achieve non-conflicting goals. The Empire was a white male humans only club, and what we've seen of the First Order, except for dropping the "male-only" restriction, that's pretty much not changed.

NA: well thats...expected.

Why do they say the site's in beta when they don't ever seem to change anything?

With the difference of Snoke, a non-human, being the official Supreme Leader of the whole thing.

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they change things all the time, its just only seen when the site crashes.

Because he's Dark Side and controls the dark Force users. Just like Palpatine, who didn't look too human at the end there.

But Palpatine did start out as a human looking human. And Snoke is the leader of the First Order despite being non-human. Granted, we don't know if he is the official leader or if he is more like a behind the scenes puller of strings that not everyone in the First Order is aware of. But that's just it: we simply don't know mostl of anything about the Order yet.

Do we know for sure Snoke didn't start out human?

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Snoke is part of the Dark Force user exemption, like Darth Maul.

Snoke isn't a First Order Officer.

OP: That's a big part of why I've so strongly considered just abandoning the idea - I don't want it to just be a tasteless excuse for conflict...

OP: That's part of the risk with AUs - they can be so dissimilar from the source as to be original content... Really, if the idea would leave me alone, I'd have abandoned it fully by now - it's borderline disrespectful, potentially against the rules, and I can't even settle on where the fic would GO with all this setup... But the idea persists.

Also I think the FO is "pro human" or something, but I cant remember if that information is canon, or fandom osmosis at work...

Never said he was. But he is the leader of the First Order, so still an official position (and the most powerful at that). If you want to stick with the inevitable Nazi-comparison, that'd be like a Jewish Hitler.

Hitler's dad was half-Jewish.

Only Darth Maul had no official position in the command structure of the Empire afaik (I may be wrong, since I never watched any of the animated shows where I hear he appeared again for some reason).

The original question was regarding First Order Officers though, so Snoke still does not count as a First Order officer.

Pretty sure it was confirmed he was some kind of alien, but people are free to prove me wrong.

So? This is a discussion thread, tangents occasionally happen in discussions.

OP: I'll probably end up writing a chapter or two, just to exorcise the idea (which I was hoping posting about here would do...), but unless inspiration strikes, it's unlikely to be completed and therefor posted anywhere.

You could write it for yourself to get it out of your system and then think about whether or not you want to post it?

Ugh, I know how you feel: I've read so many fics and there is very little proper official canon info on the First Order that it's getting harder and harder to distinguish between canon and fanon.

To clarify: I don't actually claim to know whether or not the First Order is pro-human/anti-alien. I think chances for them being xenophobic to some degree is quite high (mostly because the people in charge of the canon are unoriginal and lazy and can't think of anything else than the massively overdone Nazi-parallels). But as of yet, we can't know anything about them for sure, simply because we lack information.

No he wasn't, that's a myth that has been disproven.

OP: Fortunately, the idea never went in that direction... I just cannot abide skinheads, and can't see Hux as one. A member of a "legitimate political party" concerned with "social responsibility" and all that racist, xenophobic shit the UK is suffering from right now, would be more likely.

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