tfa_kink | DISCUSSION/OFF-TOPIC POST

I so disagree: Slytherin Kylo makes perfect sense to me. (Ambitious, willing to do whatever's necessary to achieve his ends, etc.)

Peter was a Gryffindor and that guy was ambitious.

I think he would make a good Ravenclaw, I find putting "bad guys" always on Slytherin is cliche and kind of boring at this point.

I've always seen Finn as a Slytherin too. I think people tend to for this AUs just see Slytherin as the house where we put the bad guys so they're shocked when a good guy could easily end in that house.

My partner of a decade is 6'5, and I am 5'5. My partner's tallest brother is 6'8, and his mom is almost as tall as Gwendoline Christie. I keep reading these Kylux fics where people refer to their two-inch height distance as if it were epic, and as if they are SUCH tall men. And EVERY SINGLE TIME, it throws me out of the damn story. Like, they are not THAT tall, and their size difference is minimal. Except for the (rather rare) occasions when my partner physically picks me up, it is not a big deal that we are a foot different in height (except that we look rather silly dancing together). Like, I know people are just INTO size kink, and expressing it through fic, but just... if you have been tall or with tall people your whole life, it really isn't a big deal except when you're getting into airplanes or small cars or trying to buy a pair of pants that fit you. I am not regularly awed by the size of my partner's hands, for instance, nor has he ever made a big deal out of me being short, except in the very beginning when his cousins made fun of him for dating "down" because it turns out familial height snobbery is a thing. So just... if you're writing a story that ISN'T size-kink-oriented, plz plz plz consider having them both consider their bodies totally normal—as most people do—and then get onto their hot sex scene without flipping out about the novelty of their own physical forms.

/rant accomplished, slinks back into the dark reaches of the internet

you guys

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I'd be putting Hux in Slytherin and hating myself a little for it because Slytherin villains are such a cliché, but honestly the boy is the walking embodiment of all the things the decent Slytherins would rather everyone stop fixating on.
Ambitious, ruthless, clever but uses it for galaxy domination/genocide purposes, doesn't like to fight face to face but, according to Domhnall, would do more or less anything to win one if cornered, is possibly only going along with Snokes orders because he wants to be Emperor someday...
Plus you feel like in a full scale AU he'd be one of those pureblood kids whose whole family are Slyths going back generations.

Slytherin!OP - I should be in bed, but I had to comment on this one!

Because, like, right?? I don't wanna make him a Slytherin, especially since so far I can't imagine Kylo as anything but a Slytherin too (and keep considering Ravenclaw as a less-cliche alternative for Hux), but he's just perfect as a Slytherin! And oh my gosh, yeah, I do have him marked as a pureblood in my notes for exactly this reason.

This also brings up the question of the scale of the AU, which is something I hadn't considered before really, automatically going for the full Harry Potter Universe AU. But other variations would also be really intriguing and I'd love to read about people's thoughts on that too!

AAYYY FELLOW SOUTH EAST ASIAN HERE! *HIGH FIVES*

Fellow Singaporean here! :D

Yup, Kylo is stupidly reckless. Gryffindor through and through.

I guess I am ok with OCs or OMC/OFC where a character is created, given a name, put into the plot, whatever. I like those if they are well-written; I don't mind em, anyway. Live and let live.

I can't, however, get in to the ones where it's "Oh yes, my beautiful Y/N I will make sweet sweet love to you." Am I supposed to download it and find+replace for my name there? What is even? Has anyone else seen these?

I don't care if other people like it It's just not my thing. Haven't seen it much before this fandom, though. Well, this and MCU, I guess.

This ace anon's experience matches up with yours. I feel like the porn fills some sort of gap in my experience of life and the human condition, but thinking of myself involved? Hell no.

Oh man! I love sorting people. Ok ok let's see here.

For me, the defining positive and negative traits of the four houses are as follows:

Gryffindors are brave, passionate, adventurous, desire recognition for their accomplishments, are associated with the element of Fire, and want and even need external validation. They care about people, their group, but at their worst they will try to stand above others if it means they get the praise they think they deserve. Like fire they can be quick, hot, and can hurt you, but will burn out if the situation shifts.

Ravenclaws are curious, investigative, researchers, knowledge-gatherers, associated with the element of Air, are future-driven and want to know the why and the how of everything, and they are enriched by their internal validation. They do not need external support, not even from their own peer group, but they highly value others who can keep up with them intellectually and understand their mutual need to withdraw.

Hufflepuff is comfort and care, unity, belonging, nurturing, and solidarity—the idea that the tide rises all boats. They are the Earth element, grounded and practical and welcoming. They are the quintessential 'all for one and one for all' group, and will avoid taking too much individual credit for something if it means it might make someone else feel badly. They are tangible, grounded in the here and now.

Slytherin, the Water element, values ambition and achievement, reputation, esteem, image, appearance. They, like water, can have a lot going on beneath the surface even when the top looks calm. They are confrontational, not just to get a short-term goal of recognition like a Gryffindor, but for the long game. They understand are are driven by history and tradition.

So based off of this, considering the characters as we meet them means looking at their natural temperament plus the effects of what their life and situation has brought them. Rey, although she is alone, private, mistrustful, self-taught in many ways (flying, repairs, etc) and has a lot of Ravenclaw qualities, her heart is very much Hufflepuff. She is of the earth, visually, physically, and in every way—she is about day to day survival, maintaining things as they are until her family can return. So family, belonging, compassion for lesser beings, this drives her, even though her circumstances have made her tough-skinned to survive.

So, Hufflepuff Rey, with Ravenclaw undertones.

Finn has spent all his life training and being the best, but his realization that what he is a part of isn't the truth, isn't ethically right, and isn't something he can be a part of any longer drives him to take huge risks to get away at any cost. He doesn't leave for personal glory, or for some long-range plan, or for some thing other than desperation and escape. He doesn't even leave to join the Resistance. The way he bonds with the first person who shows him a scrap of gentleness and affection, though? To me, that is straight-up Hufflepuff. Once he's out of immediate danger, we get a sense of his true motives: I'm just here to rescue Rey.

Hufflepuff Finn, for sure.

Poe, however, is a Gryffindor. Hard to separate out fanon!Poe from canon!Poe, but yeah, ace pilot? Brave and cocky and a little bit reckless? Yep.

Kylo Ren... what can I even say about Kylo Ren? His hair is so big, it's full of secrets. He punched me in the face once, it was awesome. Kylo Ren wants to be a Slytherin. He really, really wants to be. He thinks he can play the long game, be strategic, be restrained, stealthy, manipulative—but he's a hothead. He burns, and flares out. He thinks he has what he needs in Rey, but he makes a mistake. To him, embracing the dark side and embracing Vader is his way of reaching for that calm surety that Snoke keeps dangling in front of him as the ideal. His whole hallmark is lack of emotional regulation, lack of identity. Slytherins are typically very sure of their identities. Kylo Ren is a Gryffindor—yes, I know, I know. But he is. He is the shadow side of an unfulfilled, frustrated, fucking angry Gryffindor.

When Gryffindors are frustrated, they get angry, they lash out. Slytherins, they wait and bide their time and then drown you. Ravenclaws detach, disassociate, float away and conceal themselves from you. Hufflepuffs are just extremely disappointed in your life choices and punish you by not bringing you those cupcakes you like, that'll show 'em...

I really think Leia is a Slytherin. She carries the weight of her people on her shoulders, has a huge sense of duty and responsibility to that tradition and will do what it takes to stay in the long game, even if it means putting herself at risk. She is very strategic, cunning, a quick-thinker. 'Somebody has to save our skins.' Leia was the one who wanted to send Ben away for training, and she and Han (who is a Gryffindor, and you can't tell me otherwise I won't hear it la la la) disagreed on this. They may have even agreed on the what, but not on the why—train him because he needs help, he's hurting, he needs a better role model than I am, says Han. Train him because he will always have this power and he should learn to focus it, says Leia. They don't communicate on the same level, but they are both right, in a way. From a certain point of view, as it were.

Oh and Luke is totes a Hufflepuff.

Hux, I think, is a shadow Ravenclaw. Able to reason his way into abstraction, counting lives as numbers on a page. This many, and we will have the truth prevail. There is a right way and a wrong way to think, and I will show you the right way. He doesn't give two shits about the Force or mysticism, he is about rigid adhesion to a very specific Dogma. His speech reveals, he isn't doing this, really, for him and for his glory, but because he thinks he represents the messenger of truth. A closed off, evil Ravenclaw can go so esoteric that they don't even see humans as people, but prefer them faceless, orderly, and in nice neat lines.

Likewise.

I feel bad for people like you

I 100% see Finn as a gryffindor. He reminds me a lot of Neville, where he's naturally afraid but overcomes it. A slytherin would have done their best to rise in the ranks of the first order, not abandon it and continuously put themselves in harms way to protect others. If he had a secondary house it would have to be hufflepuff, since his major 'weakness' was empathy.

Poe is clearly the classic Gryffindor.

Rey is a ravenclaw, she taught herself how to pilot and multiple languages, she has a thirst for knowledge.

Hux and Kylo are motivated by self interest so slytherin

Phasma is either gryffindor on slytherin, an aggressive overachiever. Either way she's captain of the quidditch team.

Also Luke was hufflepuff, Han slytherin, Leia gryffindor

Anakin and Obi wan were gryffindor. Padme was a slytherin

I dunno, man -- I feel as though Finn did want the most ambitious thing imaginable while he was trapped in the First Order: to get out, to be happy. (Something he achieves in a brilliantly strategic way by kidnapping/rescuing a First Order prisoner so that he can fly him out.)

AYRT- The person downthread explained Gryffindor!Kylo perfectly.
(although I don't agree with their stance on Hux; that guy is such a clichéd Slytherin that it's embarrassing.)/lazy

Also, every time I see someone make a case for Slytherin!Kylo, it's 95% based on the fact that he's one of the bad guys. He isn't cunning, he doesn't appear to have any real ambition of his own (everything he does, he does for Snoke. The only time he acts for himself is when he takes Rey rather than BB-8, and that was a rash decision based on emotions/instinct and thus very Gryffindor).

I could maybe buy him as a Ravenclaw (provided that the author worked for it) based on his obsession with dear old grandpa. That could point to some nerdy Ravenclaw tendencies.

Phasma is a hardworking Hufflepuff. I mean, c'mon! Her loyalty to the First Order is a whole thing on her Wookiepedia page.

Rey is either a bad-ass Hufflepuff (so hardworking! so loyal to the idea of the parents that will come back for her!) or a very diligent Gryffindor.

Poe is a Gryffindor.

Finn might actually be a cinnamon roll Slytherin. He's got some cunning tendencies alright.

Why?

All righty:

Gryffindor Rey: My big definition for sorting Gryfinndors is: "do they just do the thing? Rey, unquestionably, does the thing. She's brave and full of conviction and she decides to help return BB-8 to the Resistance without even giving it a second thought -- not because she's loyal to them, she doesn't even know them. Because she thinks it's the right thing to do.

Slytherin Finn: For reasons mentioned above; Finn as the sweetest, most earnest Slytherin ever who's greatest desire is to escape the order and be happy -- a monumental ambition for someone with his upbringing, and he finds a very strategic way to achieve that goal. He isn't loyal to a cause so much as he wants to keep himself and the small group of people he cares about (Rey, Poe) safe at all costs, and has no problem being underhanded (lying to the Resistance re: Starkiller base) in order to do so.

Hufflepuff Poe: Every single thing that we see Poe do is, in the end, motivated by his loyalty to the Resistance and the grander cause that he believes in. He doesn't "do the thing" because of gut instinct ala Rey: he's loyal to his cause and he's loyal to Finn, who he trusts almost immediately even though he could've very easily been suspicious in that circumstance instead.

Slytherin Kylo: Not because 'it's where we sort bad guys', but because Kylo's whole arc is about being ambitious, striving something bigger than himself regardless of the consequences. ("I will finish what you started.") He wants power, he fears not being as strong as Darth Vader. Even his imploring speech to Rey is based on power and achievement: "you need a teacher, I can make you stronger" because that's what would motivate him.

well someone sure had some grumpy pills this morning

That... Doesn't make any sense? Like, if wanting to be happy makes you a slytherin than the house would be a lot fuller. A slytherin would have found ways to be happy in the first order by gaining power, which according to the novelization atleast, he was on his way to doing since he wa good at what he did. He didn't come across as a master strategist using Poe so much as someone latching onto the only opportunity they had to escape a situation where he'd be forced to act against his morals. Also rushing onto a planet to save someone when you don't have any real plan is the most gryffindor thing in the galaxy.

I mean yeah, he was tempted to leave to the outer rims, but that's a necessary moment to show that he has other options, that he was tempted to run and save himself, but that he chose to help others instead. I don't know how you can claim his actions were based primarily on self interest/ambition. He went in knowing he might die on Starkiller but did it anyways

Let people have their fun, grumpycat.

i am also confused, they have laid out their thoughts very detailed, and have given it lots of thoughts.
why would you feel bad for them?!?

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