tfa_kink | DISCUSSION/OFF-TOPIC POST

I was reading some TFA fic, can't remember what one, but halfway through I realized that I misread the pairing list and those pairs were my LEAST favorite, made me super uncomfortable, and so I left the story. And it sucks, because other than that, it was a REALLY great story. Great character development, beautiful writing, interesting plot, but I couldn't do it.

Which is one of things I hate doing. I hate leaving stories unfinished, but there are some things I can't stand in fics and I give up on them because there's no avoiding it. Not the little things, but major plot points or tropes I can't stand.

I do it with TV shows, too. If there's a sex scene, I tend not to come back to a show. Like, I should LOVE Penny Dreadful, but I can't stand sex scenes on TV or in movies. Same with AHS, I should be completely into the story, but I hate visual rape, and that show is filled with it.

So what are your top things that you can't stand in a fic? Even if the story is so good, the writing beautiful, what's the one thing that sends you for the hills? Or rather, back in search of better fics.

I really dislike the word "cunt" in sex scenes. Maybe it's because I'm ESL and its equivalent in my native language is only ever directed at women? Strangely, I don't mind it so much as a general insult in British comedy. "Quim" is another word that turns me off.

Other things:
- embarrassing dirty talk
- no paragraphs

Can't really think of much else right now.

OP here, I hate issues in presentation too, like paragraphs, stories where the first line has spelling issues or no capitalizations. Or when people use screen play layouts? Like, stop.

I hate the words erection, vag, womanhood, "quivering manhood" bleck. Like if your dick is literally vibrating, get it checked... Or words that describe an orgasm like a soda bottle exploding. Draws me right out.

Come being spelled 'cum', it makes the author seem like they're in grade school. Same with 'jizz' 'spunk' 'man-juice' etc. Unless it's a character with that as part of their diction of course (Deadpool), in which case it's fine as dialog.

Coming in 'ropes'. Unless it's Spiderman with an unusually placed web-spinner, no.

"cum" immediately makes me think i'm on fanfiction.net circa 2004

It makes me think of grade four and whispered gym changing room conversations about the meaning of the lyrics to "Cum On Feel The Noize".

When the characters start to act more like their fandom counterparts than their canon ones. I don't mind some level of out of characterness in fanfictions. But there is a line that I just can't get pass sometimes. Like Supernatural is painfully bad in this department.

Repetitive smut. I love smut, I do. But I feel like in every fandom I join there is a point where I just get bored with it. Like I feel like I can read these scenes with my eyes closed because they are the same.

Underage/noncon. I've tried it, is a no for me. There are other kinks that I also don't do, but this two tend to be really popular in some fandoms that you can't go to the tag without seen it everywhere.

OP here: I can only spend so much time in a fandom before I feel like I've seen all the gems, you know? If I see one more Destiel fic where Dean sobs or Cas sobs or someone just like bawls? No. Tears, yes, openly sobbing repeatedly throughout the fic? Like, stop. No.

And I agree with underage/non-con. It bothers me really deep down. Non con and dub con are no goes for me. I can't get into the sexiness of no consent...

AYRT, agree on everything. Is actually one of the reasons I have never gitten into ABO outside of a few exceptions. Had some bad experiences with untagged/not warned for noncon/dub con.

Ugh YESSS. To all!

Especially the first one. It gets to the point where I am writing a fic and worried that ppl will give me shit for writing Mitaka as, y'know, a member of a fascist military regime.

Attempts to be dark/edgy. I went through an emo phase when I was in middle school. I had to read so many dark/angsty things friends would share with me (abuse/depression/suicide/death/self harm, ect.) I thought they were annoying and overdone then. Now that I'm in my twenties they're even more cringeworthy. I just feel embarrassed for people who say they are into dark things. It's all very fictionpress 'darkness'

Related to that I don't understand the point of sad endings. I read fanfiction for escapism. I'll read actual literature if I want to read something with an emotional impact. I've read one fic ever that actually made me cry at the end, but I was hella high so it probably doesn't count.

Ditto on unrequited love, love triangles that don't end in poly, and break up fics. What's the point? If I want to hear about failed relationships I'll just ask anyone ever to tell me about their life.

OP: Yeah, I get that. The scene phase of American youth glorifies this troubled mindset, like no other person can have issues without it being the root of all problems. I see it a lot in self harm fics, where there's actual hormonal reasons for self harm, especially stemming from depression or other chemical disorders, but it get's glorified as this catchall for sad teens. Like, I'm a Stiles fan from Teen Wolf, the amount of fics where he cuts himself because Scott's a dick, just that, no other reason, are so abundant. It's annoying and a little ignorant of mental disorders.

And I agree with sad endings, I don't see the point. Especially when it's sad just to be sad? There are a few that rewrote character deaths, like in SPN, that worked with the show, but I still didn't enjoy it.

Yes, about sad endings. Seen that "character tag" is probably the easiest way for me to nope out of a story. I have had to watch too many shows kill of my favorite characters, the last thing I want is reading more fanfictions where more of them die.

Or unrequited love stories where one character is turned into a jerk for no reason (when they're not in canon).

OOC-ly over-negotiated kink.

OP here: Or the exact opposite, extremely under negotiated kinks. Like, the amount of "so and so tries sounding/fisting/bondage/tantric sex for the first time and it goes perfectly!" and then you sit there and go, "You didn't use lube...how did you learn to tie safe knots...are you that limber?"

Any example of the "everyone evil is a rapist" trope.

+1

Especially when applied to Kylo Ren. It seems so OOC where he is concerned.

-first person PoV unless the canon is first person
-when there is a canon het pairing or one-sided pining & writers shit on the female character (I like em gay too but c'mon)

OP: I hate all character hate, unless the character is hated in the show. I really hate 2nd person. 1st person I can go either way, but 2nd person pisses me off on a deep level. It feels so impersonal? I guess. IDK, I just never got the appeal and I hate when a summary is really good but they don't tag 2nd person so I get excited and blah, second person porn.

When a (good) character is suddenly made to act like a jerk for no real reason. It's happened to me a couple of times. I didn't expect to see it here, but while reading what until that point had been a great story it did and it just ruined the story for me. And now it's happening with another one on AO3.

OC Here: I found another one in a Teen Wolf fic, dumb ass OC's with terrible names. If you name your self insert Star Power Moon Beam, I'm tapping out of your story. I hate self inserts, me or rampant Mary Sue's. It makes me physically exasperated. When you have a GREAT story and you ruin it with Magica Plot De'Vice, I angrily click away and wish I could remove my view from your story. Tag when you have Mary Sues or wish fulfillment OCs, be honest with us.

Yes, and as a corollary, I hate when they show up in the second or third chapter of a WIP and take over everything. It's one reason why I don't read or kudos WIPs anymore.

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