tfa_kink | DISCUSSION/OFF-TOPIC POST

Okay, so I think it is very tied to the fact that there is not a lot of fics about established Poe/Finn. The movie gives us a golden opportunity to write slow burn or falling in love fics. Rey going off on her own to train with Luke for an undetermined amount of time, leaving Poe and Finn on D'Qar.
That's what drew writers on the first place. That, plus the ship introducing a lot of people to the concept of fandom (it got me personally to start writing) and maybe younger fans than with Kylux, it isn't a fertile ground for kinky stuff.

Personally, I'd love to read and write kinky stuff, but really only if they're in an established relationship, and to get the feeling right, I always feel like I need to write more. My brain refuses to compute when I read prompts about the First Order being open about sex or making sex part of its culture. I'm like, cool headcanon, but not mine. I can't see Finn as opening about his kinks to Poe until time has passed. Same for Poe, can't see him as the guy to try and say anything that might make Finn uncomfortable.

I think fandom will come around, eventually. Kinky sex can be hot for these two if it's very consensual, because it shows off how much these two love and trust each other.

Kinky sex can be hot for these two if it isn't consensual, too, tbh.

~~Even better, IMO. Show me the sex pollen.~~

DA

After the anon who wrote P/F sex pollen was bullied into taking her fic offline, I don't think you'll be seeing sex pollen or dub/non-con anytime soon.

I read that fic and seriously, it's the mildest sex pollen I've ever read.

DA

IA. I wonder if the author pissed someone off in fandom and that's why they were bullied into taking it down. It's happened before.

Given the fic, I'd say that or it was a random dog piling target like happens on anon memes where someone gets a bug up their ass and starts wanking and others jump on the wankwagon.

Considering the first comment was unfortunately the one to start the wank, that was likely the case. By the time other readers tried to come to the author's aid the harm was done and they were all patting themselves in the back for being so progressive.

DA

Do you remember if the comment was from someone logged into an account or an anon comment? I find a lot of the wankbait comments on AO3 fics or ones that are more demanding or accusatory don't come from people who have signed into accounts.

Some where logged in users and others weren't.

The first comment was logged in, and it was a somewhat-BNF.

Ah. That's all it takes. Unfortunate.

Who was the first comment, if you don't mind telling?

At least on AO3 you can delete or moderate comments, if it comes to that, unlike anon memes where only the mod has that power.

This is why I didn't get why so many people went after the author. It was nowhere near as graphic or violent as some of the stuff I have come across. Yes it was not a happy story, but not every story has to be happy.

Years ago, I was in another fandom where people got up in arms when fics didn't end happily and started requesting unhappy ending warnings on fics.

This sounds familiar...what fandom?

Supernatural and Supernatural RPF during the early years. Though I know it was a big issue in other fandoms like SGA and HP, mostly with warning for unhappy endings or the OTP not ending up together.

IRC, there were a lot of meta posts at the time about whether or not people should warn for everything and comparing fandom fic warnings with warnings irl for books and movies.

As the other anon said. The last writer who dared to write a dark sex pollen story was harassed by the PC police to the point they no only had to delete the story, but make an official apology for hurting their feelings. So I doubt we'll be seen anyone tackle that any time soon.

That is so messed up. Ugh. Makes me mad just hearing about it.

There was a very dark one posted today that was "Kylo makes FN-2187 rape Poe during the interrogation" and FN got off on Poe being hurt, although it was also clear the fucked up reasons why and it wasn't villainizing him. So maybe people aren't the scared bunnies you worry they all are.

Probably because the addition of Kylo (a white dude) as the aggressor/manipulator means they can't use the "racism" bullshit excuse.

That's really not how racist depictions work but w/e.

I didn't say they did, but it is a common logic used by extremist regardless.

It really wasn't that dark either. It was almost boring.

~~I thought it was super hot tbh but it was full of a bunch of my bulletproof kinks soooooo...~~

I'm sure it is for some people, but yeah, poor choice of words, I was talking about my own opinion and used words that implied that I spoke for everyone else.

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