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Exactly. I mean I have been on this fandom for about a month. When I started reading I saw people using beer and alcohol a lot, so I decided to check the wiki page on what drinks they had and foods, and yep they do call things that as well as wine in some sources.

I also went and checked some of the names for foods in case they showed up, and some of them were surprisingly Earth-like terms. So I nodded and went back to reading with the understanding there would be familiar and unfamiliar terms for foods and drinks.

So to come and tell people they shouldn't use Earth-terms /at all/ because "it goes against the universe" is not only a bit elitist (like telling people not to write certain kinks or ships because they don't fit in your canon), but is not even fully correct according to their own wiki source which does use Earth-like terms for items.

Hell, the move makers call what Rey was eating bread. So if were to use that term would I be wrong even if that's what the creators called it? I mean it is an Earth-term/food?

So as a noob (xD), who do I listen to?

Exactly. people here take time out of the day to write these stories for the OPs and others to enjoy. We don't get pay for this. You can be helpful without being rude.

You know what else smacks of elitism? You coming in and acting like your opinion is more enlightened and more factual just because you're defending someone who used tater tots.

I don't think it's so much using Earth-terms as brand names. Wine is a generic term across most cultures and while the actual word may vary depending on language, the understanding behind it is the same. Bread is a generic term. Fruit is a generic term.

It's the difference between writing "a fizzy drink" or writing "Coke" or "Pepsi". Or writing "bread" versus "X Brand Bread". I think the issue with tater tots is that it's technically a brand name and a specific cultural thing, and even though "tater" itself is pretty generic slang for potatoes in a lot of places, "tater tots" are a very specific type of food.

That's not to say they couldn't exist in the SW universe - because I imagine they would have some type of fried potato food - and there's nothing explicitly wrong with people enjoying a mention of them in the story or finding them out of place, but I think you're going to make mountains of molehills if you apply this reasoning to all Earth-terms versus brand names or specific cultural dishes.

I think it just sounds weird in fan fic or "actual" fiction when things are referred to by their brand names. The Rizzoli & Isles series (the mystery novels not the show) name drop shit every other sentence practically and it drives me nuts.

No one ever says "and then she threw her Louis Vuitton purse at him and broke his Rayband sunglasses because he spilled his Dr. Pepper on her brand new Nikes"

It sounds ridiculous.

They do if they're pretentious twats, but your point stands.

nayrt

Damn I really want to prompt for a crack 'product placement' story, where everyone's drinking Coke and wearing Levi's and the X-wings all have Motomaster parts.

Tbh, that would be just the most beautiful thing to come out of this shitstorm of a thread. I can just imagine someone playing Candy Crush on their Apple-brand datapad.

Can it be phasma? Or Hux?

Wayne's World crossover...?

PA- A lot of people don't think as tater tots as a brand name, they tend to be called that even when they come from a completely different company or are home made. So it's far more likely the original author might not have even mad the connection to a brand. I'm not from the States originally and that is pretty much the only name I know that side dish as. And it is likely the same for many other people.

And again, my main issue was the rude tone of the comments. As I said when I first tarted reading I was surprised by people using terms like beer. Yet I never once decided the story stopped being valid for things like that. One of my most recent reads even used Guatemalan foods and culture to add to Poe's background, is very much not canon, but it was an unique way to add something to his character that ended up working for the author and readers.

To pretty much tell people not to use things like this because you yourself can't enjoy it, does come across like a douche move. Or telling them they would alienate the majority of the fandom if they do. Which is what I had a problem with. We can only speak for ourselves (we all have our pet peeves after all! for once I can't read stories that are first person POV), when you go around making genetic comments like that then I take issue.

It's called bread because that was what the prop was, not necessarily what the food was.

This exactly! This whole post! There are tons of Earth terms alongside the tons of unique Star Wars stuff, and people who haven't been able to absorb the huge amounts of lore from decades of disparate sources shouldn't be... dogpiled on like this. They shouldn't even have to sustain one rude comment or snotty holier-than-thou correction.

Ugh. I love the prompts and fills in this kinkmeme, but this sense of entitlement people have is bizarre. Fic is written for free, people, out of love!

Plus, just to add an extra layer of irony to this whole mess, I looked at that wiki link from somewhere upthread (and some of its subpages), and not only am I seeing blatant Earth terms like churro, crab, lobster, wheat, and cabbage, I happened across this:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Potato

Lmao. Did... did no one who's been crying foul over the potatoes even bother to look on the wiki?

(Also this, which almost makes this whole fiasco worth it XD: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Tater )

That was me. I decided to look at the wiki to see what terms they used and see if the people calling foul had a point. The wiki clearly shows that they do use Earth-terms, tons actually. Any author would be within their right to read that and come to the conclusion similar terms wouldn't be so outlandish to include. To tell an author they don't care about the source material and anyone who does won't want to read their stories is just being rude to be rude.

Maybe I'm a white knight like the previous author said, but as someone who has enjoyed fanfiction for years, I don't like when people feel like it is their place to tell someone else what they can or can't write or that they are lesser of a fan for it.

We are all fans here and we also have our own unique ways to go about it. No one should be looked down by their fellow fans because of it.

I'm off though, this is a small thing and I have no desire to start a fight over it. I just felt people were being unfair to the author and couldn't keep quiet about it anymore because I could see people been discouraged to write with this mentality going around and that would suck.

Tater Tots is a brand name. Unless Ore-Ida started manufacturing them long, long ago in a galaxy far far away, where neither Oregon or Idaho exist, then no one in that universe would even think the term.

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