Exactly. As a rule if you're unsure if you should be using dubcon or noncon, I'll go for the later to be certain.
Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)I took a small break from my Kylux multi-chapter stuff because I wasn't "feeling the inspiration" at the moment. Which I know is a terrible way to write because writing is about sitting down and just doing it and not having some muse dictate you (or at least that's what my Professor's always said).
However, I don't think I've ever actually made an outline for the fanfiction I've written and I've been doing it for ten years. It's more of a "Jesus take the wheel" moment that's worked for me and at the end the stories have a proper beginning, middle, end and natural arc and so on with a lot of research to be properly grounded. But I cannot tell you between one chapter and what happens in the next.
Does anyone else do the seat of your pants thing or do you have it all plotted out from beginning to end? Curious about what other people's styles are like.
However, I don't think I've ever actually made an outline for the fanfiction I've written and I've been doing it for ten years. It's more of a "Jesus take the wheel" moment that's worked for me and at the end the stories have a proper beginning, middle, end and natural arc and so on with a lot of research to be properly grounded. But I cannot tell you between one chapter and what happens in the next.
Does anyone else do the seat of your pants thing or do you have it all plotted out from beginning to end? Curious about what other people's styles are like.
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)I try to at least have a vague idea where I want to go and some major scenes I might want to include, but I always end up changing things as I write. The only exception is if I feel like the story is dragging too much or having too much filler, I might try to have a more detailed outline I force myself to follow. I never want to end with one of those 100 chapter 500,000 words stories lol.
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Probably something like "other fandoms have incest ships with nowhere near the level of moralising that Reylo inspires for possibly being incestuous"
Probably something like "other fandoms have incest ships with nowhere near the level of moralising that Reylo inspires for possibly being incestuous"
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)I feel it's safe to say that all my writing is pants.
OP
Precisely. I usually try to stay away from The Reylo Wars, but whenever I come across this it always makes me laugh. I just had to post this somewhere.
Precisely. I usually try to stay away from The Reylo Wars, but whenever I come across this it always makes me laugh. I just had to post this somewhere.
I mean the point of the Lannisters is that they're bad guys and their incestous relationship caused a lot of issues, so is not like that incestous relationship is romanticized. It's like comparing apples and oranges. I mean if incest is your kink, that's your thing (I shipped Wincest, so), but the Lannisters or the Targarians should be the last example I would use to excuse incest as a kink.
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)When I decide to write a prompt, it's because usually one scene comes up in my head, almost already fleshed-out. I then figure out the plot around it. I always know where it starts and where it ends, but it sometimes changes a lot between these two points. I almost always end up deleting and rewriting huge sections too, because I'm angsty about my writing. I would probably do that with the finished stuff but it would just drive me crazy. Also, it would be a very George Lucas thing to do.
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)I did only pantsing for a good while, and it worked out alright most times, but for some fics I would just get stuck or lose motivation, so I did a lot of research into other writing methods.
These days, for any ideas I'm serious about completing, I come up with a quick overall plot, then, whenever I start a new chapter or section, I jot down what should happen - even if it isn't multichapter. It's actually quite helpful, and I think the end result is much easier to edit and clean up.
I've experimented a lot with full-out planning too, which can be helpful if the story is more complex or you have several emotional arcs.
These days, for any ideas I'm serious about completing, I come up with a quick overall plot, then, whenever I start a new chapter or section, I jot down what should happen - even if it isn't multichapter. It's actually quite helpful, and I think the end result is much easier to edit and clean up.
I've experimented a lot with full-out planning too, which can be helpful if the story is more complex or you have several emotional arcs.
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)OP of question. :)
The prompts are great because when one grabs me it's like BAM almost all of a particular scene is in my head already. I write that, edit, cut things away, add things, look up some stuff, and then it's done. I just finished and posted a story from a prompt I read this morning. -_-
Although I've found I never delete things because I might end up liking it later (or being inspired by it). Instead, I push it down the page while I write and when I finally feel something is done (and then it's just looking for errors and flow and nit-picky stuff) I save the extras in what I would call [Fandom X] Scrap Pile. Then I throw everything that's written but not used in there. My Harry Potter one is massive, haha.
The prompts are great because when one grabs me it's like BAM almost all of a particular scene is in my head already. I write that, edit, cut things away, add things, look up some stuff, and then it's done. I just finished and posted a story from a prompt I read this morning. -_-
Although I've found I never delete things because I might end up liking it later (or being inspired by it). Instead, I push it down the page while I write and when I finally feel something is done (and then it's just looking for errors and flow and nit-picky stuff) I save the extras in what I would call [Fandom X] Scrap Pile. Then I throw everything that's written but not used in there. My Harry Potter one is massive, haha.
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)I always plot things out first. Otherwise I have no idea where I'm going with it, and lose my will to keep going...
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)Usually I start a fill because I'm struck with inspiration so at the beginning I don't. But if I know it's going to be multi-chaptered I tend to do a vague outline with certain points/events that I want to include.
So I'm kind of half and half with i.
So I'm kind of half and half with i.
But lack of comments/response suggest otherwise. ;)
Which, in turn, I would just like to say that sometimes I forget to comment on great prompts. It's great to see fresh ideas still coming around nearly six months in! I do need to remember to applaud all the prompts I like. And I've been keeping a document of prompts I aspire to write. Slowly but surely it's happening.
Which, in turn, I would just like to say that sometimes I forget to comment on great prompts. It's great to see fresh ideas still coming around nearly six months in! I do need to remember to applaud all the prompts I like. And I've been keeping a document of prompts I aspire to write. Slowly but surely it's happening.
(I have so many prompts saved, it is a Problem.)
What I've seen is that even if there isn't much hype on the prompt itself, once a fill is posted a lot more people than you'd expect come to read it. People are interested, just don't want to get too invested, maybe.
What I've seen is that even if there isn't much hype on the prompt itself, once a fill is posted a lot more people than you'd expect come to read it. People are interested, just don't want to get too invested, maybe.
As someone who regularly ships incest but disapproves of Reylo (she can do SO much better), I think the "they might be related" complaint is more to prevent OTHERS from shipping it, rather than a reason why a particular individual doesn't. It's like saying "if you ship X, people will think you do it IRL, so don't." A sort of preemptive insult.
I do see that happening. Just because a person or several people indicate love for a prompt that doesn't guarantee someone will have the urge to write that prompt. There may be demand but there's also a need for inspiration to make someone start writing it. The two don't always go hand in hand.
I also feel obliged to say I also don't state upfront that I am writing something. I'm normally afraid all my ideas will fall through or time management just won't cooperate. I don't want to leave a person waiting on nothing. Having said that I have managed to fulfill a promised fill for the one time I did say I was going to write.
I also feel obliged to say I also don't state upfront that I am writing something. I'm normally afraid all my ideas will fall through or time management just won't cooperate. I don't want to leave a person waiting on nothing. Having said that I have managed to fulfill a promised fill for the one time I did say I was going to write.
SA I have prompts from Round 5 saved that I still want to write. I joined late in the Kink Fest fun. I need to be faster on these things. I wonder what I missed from the first four rounds
Oh yeah, I have never, ever said a word if I'm filling a prompt. Except that one (fine two) times I've needed to clarify a detail with OP, but still. I'll often second prompts I like, bookmark them, and eventually get around to writing them if they've invaded my brain too much, of course. Huh, on reflection, at least half the time if I've seconded it and no one else does anything for it, eventually I probably will.
I also have a bunch saved from earlier rounds. Those fills get less attention, granted, but sometimes a prompt just won't leave you alone until you've done something with it.
I also have a bunch saved from earlier rounds. Those fills get less attention, granted, but sometimes a prompt just won't leave you alone until you've done something with it.
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-04 12:58 am (UTC)(link)I used to pants-write with only a vague idea of where it was going, but eventually it led to too many unfinished stories (like half of anything I'd write) because it didn't suit my style.
These days I plan, either to myself, or if a fic is being particularly uncooperative, I write out a sequence of events in the scrawliest, crackiest OOC-est terms in a badly grammaticalised paragraph with run on sentences and no full stops. It gets it out of my system and gives me a scene-by-scene breakdown of what I want to actually happen, then I can just fill in the blanks.
Then occasionally you get those magical prompts that write themselves and they are just beautiful. I expect they are also literally magic too considering how easy some of them are, so... kudos to the prompting mages of the kinkmeme I guess. That's a large part of the reason I hang out here.
These days I plan, either to myself, or if a fic is being particularly uncooperative, I write out a sequence of events in the scrawliest, crackiest OOC-est terms in a badly grammaticalised paragraph with run on sentences and no full stops. It gets it out of my system and gives me a scene-by-scene breakdown of what I want to actually happen, then I can just fill in the blanks.
Then occasionally you get those magical prompts that write themselves and they are just beautiful. I expect they are also literally magic too considering how easy some of them are, so... kudos to the prompting mages of the kinkmeme I guess. That's a large part of the reason I hang out here.
Which is silly, since whether or not they're related is pure speculation at this point, and also because. You know. What people like to read about and what they want to do in their own life do not necessarily correlate at all.
Even fills for prompts of previous rounds can get lots of love if the filler drops a comment on the fills post! Lots of people (including me) track comments on the fills post so if you want more exposure, I think that's the way to go.
AYRT
Are you me? Lol, the one time I said beforehand that I was going to post a fill, it was like 95% complete so I wasn't worried about not being able to follow through. But otherwise, I don't say anything.
Are you me? Lol, the one time I said beforehand that I was going to post a fill, it was like 95% complete so I wasn't worried about not being able to follow through. But otherwise, I don't say anything.
That's true. I have seen prompts here that easily get 6-10 +1 and lots of enthusiasm but as of yet have never been actually filled. And fills to prompts that didn't really got a lot of support at first but become popular once it gets filled.
I'm the same there are a couple of prompts I have started written, nothing major just a couple of senescence here and there, but I haven't mentioned anything because I don't want to keep people waiting or discourage someone from filling because they are waiting to see how the other fill will be like.
I'm the same there are a couple of prompts I have started written, nothing major just a couple of senescence here and there, but I haven't mentioned anything because I don't want to keep people waiting or discourage someone from filling because they are waiting to see how the other fill will be like.
AYRT- Alas, there are a great many people who think "I don't like something, therefor nobody ELSE should like it, either." Which, yeah, is stupid, but PEOPLE are stupid. We're all wired to think our own opinions are the only "correct" ones, and that we should spread our "correct" opinions to everyone else. Just look at wars fought over ideology, or arguments on the correct way for toilet paper to hang! Why we think this way is pretty heavily contested (because of course it is), but it's basically a survival thing - a group that thinks alike will work together better, and people who force their ideas on others will obviously make a group think alike.
So basically, non-Reylo shippers are using the possibility of incest in a bid to make others think the way they do, in order to subconsciously and selfishly PROMOTE unity in the Star Wars fandom/group and ensure its "survival", because humans are IDIOTS.
So basically, non-Reylo shippers are using the possibility of incest in a bid to make others think the way they do, in order to subconsciously and selfishly PROMOTE unity in the Star Wars fandom/group and ensure its "survival", because humans are IDIOTS.
Re: Do people have a story outline before the start writing/posting?
(Anonymous) 2016-06-04 03:38 am (UTC)(link)I do. I don't write it down or sit down and try to puzzle it out, but I do "rehearse" scenes in my head for a long time before I ever sit down and write them to figure out which version I like best, or what I can add that makes the story work better. I revamp based on what else I add in the heat of inspiration while I'm writing it down, and there's been more than one time I've ended up removing a scene because I just wasn't feeling it at all.
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